How Narcissists Run in Packs - part 4 Use and Abuse

Written together with my Kalyan Mitras Tara, Simran and Jeeya

The teachings in the FiT Programme were based on Sanatana Dharma principles from day one. Sree Maa gave us the freedom to keep our own moral compass as Sree Maa believes in Sanatana Dharma and had already told us that Sanatana means eternal and Dharma is the moral compass inside each person. Dharma means conscience inside is working and one is able to do the righteous things. It turned out that some of the FiTs had absolutely no moral compass and just used and abused Kosmic Fusion resources and Sree Maa’s Kindness and Compassion for their own agendas. This completely fits the characteristics of a narcissist as they lack empathy and conscience.

Irene/Joy Kuo/Joy Vottus used and abused intellectual property and Kosmic Fusion Resources however she saw fit. She approached Nick, one of the Pulsars, to do some of her renovation work at her home for free, only giving him board and lodgings. But when Nick needed some medical attention, she immediately wanted to get rid of him. She was very much focussed on what she could get out of the situation rather than have true empathy for Nicks plight and what he was going through. 

Irene/Joy also knew that Mala was travelling to inner and outer Sydney to support her and Clarito/Hanuman with events and would rather have Hanuman give her a lift than to give Mala a lift home. With all due respect to Mala, Mala is the eldest in our FiT Program and should have been treated as such. Again she put her own needs first and showed no empathy for others.

If Irene/Joy wanted to do an expo, she would say Clarito wanted to do it. When the others said no, she would say Clarito is really pushing, he really wants to do it otherwise he would get really upset. In addition to using Claritos name to mask her own ambition, Irene/Joy was constantly asking Simran and other volunteers in Sydney to fund events which were driven by her to keep up the appearance of being very successful, under the guise of doing it "for Kosmic Fusion". She became obsessed with building a database which she used for her own personal side business, all at the expense of the volunteers and Sree Maa  and Shri Ji.

Irene/Joy hatched a plan with Clarito who was now under her control and used as a flying monkey,  to extract money from Simran. Without consulting with the other FiTs she called a conference call and asked Simran to “backpay” Kosmic Fusion Australia for the past events that Simran had volunteered at. Using her name and shame tactics she put Simran on the spot and wrote the following message.

    

The fact of the matter was that she had racked up company expenses to fund her own business and this was a roundabout way of retrieving those funds, again using and abusing the volunteers for her own benefit. In addition, she would give a very distorted picture to the other FiTs outside of Australia that only her and Hanuman were contributing and none of the other FiTs in Sydney, but the truth was completely different. 

Something very similar was happening in New Zealand where Dallia/Iphigenie was using others left right and centre to fulfill her agenda.

Dallia/Iphigenie was planning to put her fangs into the Ashram house after seeing how big the Ashram house was, Dallia/Iphigenie strategically made her moves to engage Jeeya as her flying monkey. First Dallia/Iphigenie played Jeeya into believing how much she would like to be part of the Ashram house project by making sure that Jeeya was there to “witness”  how she was selling off her belly dancing items to show off how unattached she is to her possessions. Dallia/Iphigenie also told Jeeya that she was closing down her belly dance business for the Ashram House project, when the truth is her belly dance business was not making money and Dallia/Iphigenie did not have a choice but to close it down because it was not commercially viable.

Dallia/Iphigenie even played the devotee card with Jeeya by asking Jeeya to join her in getting a small mandir, frames, pooja items for Bhagwan Swaminarayan so that she will not be disrespectful.

Dallia/Iphigenie was constantly “sharing” with Jeeya how much she wanted to be in the Ashram House and kept asking Jeeya for “advice” how she can better improved herself, giving Jeeya the false impression that she was really keen on changing. Dallia/Iphigenie did not tell her about the message that she received personally  from Sree Maa telling her that she was not ready for the Ashram House, Jeeya having  her own personal agenda of wanting to leave for Singapore invited Dallia/Iphigenie into the Ashram House, lying in front of Sree Maa how devoted Dallia/Iphigenie was and encouraging her to come to the Ashram house.

Irene/Joy wasn’t the only one using the other FiTs to get money. Dallia/Iphigenie was making use of her stay in the Ashram House to trick Renu and Orja to give her a loan.  Dallia/Iphigenie was hiding the fact that she used Sree Maa Shri Ji’s name as an excuse to get the loans but was using the money to pay off her personal bills.

While Dallia/Iphigenie was acting as if she was important on the whatsapp groups towards the overseas FiTs being in the Ashram House, she was really causing a lot of harassment to everyone in the Ashram, most of all Sree Maa and Shri Ji. She never mentioned to anyone she had not been invited into the Ashram House, but forced herself into there uninvited.

In fact, the Ashram House had become more like a narcissist war zone where all the FiTs living in the Ashram House were in there for their personal gains, fighting amongst themselves, abusing and taking advantage of Sree Maa Shri Ji’s kindness and compassion. The true goal of the Ashram project had been completely lost sight of. 

Dallia/Iphigenie was behaving like she owns the Ashram House when Sree Maa and Shri Ji were not around, she went into Sree Maa and Shri Ji’s room and violated Sree Maa’s personal space by going through Sree Maa’s personal possessions. Dallia/Iphigenie would spread herself across Sree Maa and Shri Ji’s couch and even purposefully pointed her feet towards Shreeji Maharaj’s portrait which is considered very disrespectful. Dallia/Iphigenie was also making Jeeya handle all the laundry and ironing, Nandini all the housekeeping while she was lying down on the couch watching her German movies.

Jeeya and Nandini were humiliated by Dallia/Iphigenie with her constant correction of what they were doing or saying. Dallia/Iphigenie made sure that she was in control and making Jeeya and Nandini slave for her in a very subtle way. Dallia/Iphigenie did not even allow Jeeya and Nandini to use the kitchen when she was around, she constantly ridiculed Jeeya, finding faults of what Jeeya has done for the pantry with words like “why would you want to arrange it this way?” “ why are you not using containers to keep this?”.

The FiTs in the Ashram painted a false picture of the life in the Ashram, making it sound like it was very difficult, but the truth was the opposite. Sree Maa would often cook for them and even spend time how to prepare Indian dishes. Sree Maa literally gave of herself 24/7 to help the ones with narcissism to move beyond their afflictions.

The world advises a no contact rule for narcissists, but Sree Maa, being the epitome of Grace and Compassion, welcome everyone with open arms as Sree Maa only sees the Divine spark within everyone. While Nandini and Jeeya welcomed the Grace and were making a sincere effort to change, Iphigenie only kept misusing Sree Maa’s Kindness and was dead set on her mission to sabotage and destroy Kosmic Fusion.

How Narcissists hunt in packs part 1 - part 2 Narc tactics - part 3 Faking it - part 4 Use and Abuse - part 5 When the mask cracks

How Narcissists Run in Packs - part 2 Narc tactics

Written together with my Kalyan Mitras Jeeya, Tara and Simran

Narcissists hunt in packs and when a couple of narcissists joined our group, they exploited our most compassionate Teacher mercilessly and created a lot of havoc. One average narcissist can affect up to 30-40 people in their lifetime, so it actually a miracle we are still standing and doing fine, having had to deal with 5 narcissists (out of which 2 very malignant ones) in our group of 18.

It is only by the Grace of Sree Maa and the all-powerful, most benevolent Quantum Vortex Scalar Wave Photon Pulse that we are still fine and by the precious Teachings of our beloved Sadguru that we have been able to reflect and come to see things clearly. We feel strongly about sharing the Truth of what happened, as Irene/Joy Kuo/Joy Awakening/Joy Vottus (she keeps changing her name) and Iphigenie Amoutzias/Malana B. Taresi are spreading lies on the internet about Kosmic Fusion and our beloved Teacher, still trying to fulfill their vicious aim of sabotaging the philanthropic mission of Kosmic Fusion. We also hope this may give insight to other genuine seekers as we suspect that more people with NPD will be roaming around spiritual circles.

Narc Tactics

While Irene/Joy Awakening was causing discord in the Sydney team, Dallia/Iphigenie was meddling with the team she had been graced with by Sree Maa in New Zealand after she kept asking for one. As the representative of Kosmic Fusion in New Zealand, Iphigenie was liaising with the Pulsars and was suggesting it was a cult to some of the attendees at the Kosmic Tribe. She was also organising Meet-up meditations were she was talking more nonsense, spreading seeds of doubt and on top of it using it to pick up men.

She was creating havoc within the team of volunteers/FiTs. Initially she was hanging out with Sarah but when Sarah didn’t give her what she wanted, she moved onto Renu who would do write-ups and help with the organising. She purposely caused problems between them to drive them apart. Narcissists work in a very sly and covert fashion so that it is hard to pinpoint at the time what is happening. Gaslighting, triangulations, flying monkeys, psychic warfare; the narcissist has got a whole arsenal to cause discord and confusion. It is only in hindsight that you can put the pieces of the puzzle together. And Dallia/Iphigenie and Irene/Joy were a pro at it.

2014 was a year of practical training where through assisting in the organising of online workshops and events, we could practise being the non-doer. But not all were sincere in their practise… Dallia/Iphigenie and Irene/Joy were not only trying to control what was happening in the area where they lived, but also the FiT Programme as a whole. Iphigenie was squeezing out the other volunteers in the on-line events, by always putting herself forward as the facilitator with no regards for others. She was using the top dog strategy to do this.

Irene/Joy too used the top dog strategy, always trying to trump others in subtle and not so subtle ways. End of 2014 we were asked to do a beautiful exercise of tuning in with the QVSWPP for 2 times a day for 21 days and then reflect and share how we experience our relationship with Sree Maa Shri Ji, QVSWPP and other FiTs. Simran wrote a beautiful, honest letter that shows true deep reflections. Irene purposely replied to this (not sending her own letter) to top Simran off with a letter that we feel is more like a boast than a genuine reflection.

Looking back the lead was being taken by Dallia/Iphigenie and Irene/Joy who were working together to take over control. Irene would report others mistakes to Dallia and vice versa and also try to fill Sree Maa Shri Ji’s ears.

25/08/14, 19:49 - Komal Irene Kuo: So the second day we make it clear no talking inside the temple. .and Jabeen was another headache

25/08/14, 19:49 - Komal Irene Kuo: She was also in the stand but she tried to step in and keeps talking which is not helping

25/08/14, 19:50 - Meera: Of course no talking. Did the psychic talk?

Jabeen Jabeen....

25/08/14, 19:50 - Komal Irene Kuo: She also spent lots of time inside the temple to receive the energy

25/08/14, 19:50 - Meera: Haha, it's all about her

25/08/14, 19:51 - Komal Irene Kuo: Sharing some post with you

25/08/14, 19:51 - Komal Irene Kuo: Maa, something clicked to me while I was sleeping this morning, as Jabeen mentioned she is doing work placement receiving phone calls and giving  consultation for suicidal cases recently, not sure if this would affect her and also the stand energetically; as I noticed she tends to spend more time inside the temple and receiving the energy transmission, and she followed Clarito going inside the temple nearly each time he went in, which I feel strange, Clarito also mentioned he never felt so heavy in the stand before like these two days.  I don't know if  there are any connections between these incidences, would like to bring my observations for your attention and would like to have your feedback on this, also your guidance on what to do if we have similar situation in the future events

25/08/14, 19:52 - Meera: Wow. Very good.

25/08/14, 19:52 - Meera: What did Maa say?

25/08/14, 19:53 - Meera: Must have been rather heavy. Jabeen still has so much ego too work through.  ..

Tara has also personally witnessed how Irene/Joy confides in Dallia/Iphigenie when she needed to vent her anger towards Clarito. It was after the 2015 Kawai Pura Pura, New Zealand retreat where she and Clarito had an argument about Clarito wanting to move out of Sydney to go work in Auckland to be physically closer to Sree Maa and Shri Ji. She had raised her voice at Clarito across the dinner table to make him feel guilty by saying “FINE! You go to New Zealand and I will handle Sydney all by myself! How’s that?” After dinner, she was pacing up and down with rage in the hotel room that Tara and Irene/Joy were sharing that night because Irene/Joy was so fearful and upset about losing her biggest supply and flying monkey to Sree Maa and Shri Ji. When Tara did not want to engage in her drama, that is when Irene/Joy called Iphigenie to the hotel room to rant and complain as they normally would about others behind their backs (in this case, Clarito’s).

When you read through their whatsapp conversation it is a constant judging and bad mouthing others with a sense of grandiosity that is typical of narcissists. In this excerpt of Dallia/Iphigenie and Irene/Joy’s conversation you can see their sense of grandiosity and how they are even using their ‘dreams’ to gaslight others.

It is interesting Irene/Joy and Dallia/Iphigenie are talking about the two faces of others, while they themselves turned out to be the biggest cheats and hypocrites on the FiT Programme. Throughout their whole conversation on whatsapp you can see the projection of what they were doing onto others.

In fact, both Joy and Iphigenie have been working very hard but very slyly to get others out of the FiT Programme so they could be the best and eventually reach their goal of taking over and destroying the mission of Kosmic Fusion. Irene/Joy tried everything she could to get Jabeen/Jwala and Simran out playing very twisted games, and she kept suggesting to Mala to move back to the UK. Irene/Joy would attack Jwala time and again or use Clarito as her flying monkey.

Twisting and blaming

Irene/Joy said that Simran was the one who was responsible for destroying the relationship with Deb - an event organiser. She used the following incident regarding lunch to frame Simran so that she could get rid of her, making a mountain out of a molehill. You can read the email conversation here.

After this email was sent, Irene/Joy accused Simran of destroying the relationship and putting Kosmic Fusions reputation on the line. Immediately after this occurred, she reported this to Jeeya, complaining about Simran. This was later brought up again by Irene/Joy in the 2017 reunion as a reason for asking Simran to leave the FiT training due to incompetence. Irene/Joy completely exaggerated the incident to a point where it was a “dismissable offence” in her eyes.

At events, it was clear that Irene/Joy was trying to control matters. Irene/Joy would constantly take photos of herself on the stand. Other volunteers would not necessarily like to be photographed but Irene/Joy wanted the volunteers to be photographed on the stand so that she could boast about how well things were going in Sydney, as she saw herself as the leader she thought it would impress Sree Maa and Shri Ji. She then duped Simran into posting the messages on whatsapp by saying that Sree Maa wanted to know what we were doing on the stand and what it looked like etc.  Irene/Joy then went on to tell Jeeya that Simran came to the stand to take photographs and check in so that Sree Maa thought that Simran was busy on the stand. It was clear that other volunteers ie Simran, Mala and Jwala did not like their photographs taken but felt pressured to do so to buy into the front of “oneness” that Irene/Joy was trying to create.

 Irene/Joy and Hanuman wanted to participate in an advert in the local press, but when Simran and Jwala declined, the situation was turned around to point fingers at Jwala and Simran by saying that we were not contributing to Kosmic Fusion so they signed up for the ad. By this time Irene/Joy and Hanuman had pulled out of doing the ad and Simran and Jwala were in a position where it was too late to pull out and had to go ahead with filling the advertising space. Irene/Joy then used it as evidence against Simran at the reunion. There are more examples of how Irene/Joy was twisting things around to point fingers at others and actually try to remove them from the FiT Programme.

Below is the feedback shared by Irene/Joy towards fellow volunteer Simran:

For the magazine advertisement for Northern Beaches Embrace Life event she and Jwala went ahead without consulting me and Hanuman, and then wanted to change to smaller size from 1/3 to 1/9 of the page after she and Jwala realised me and Hanuman not participating as we were not informed in the first place, the event organiser Deborah was not happy about the last minute change just before the due date as the magazine space been allocated, Deborah even wrote email asking me and Hanuman what’s happening, from her forwarded email we saw Simran told her because Kosmic Fusion is moving to new phase so not able to come up with bigger advertising space… this is how she slander Kosmic Fusion’s name and doing whatever she wants, if Deborah didn’t forward the email would have any clues of what’s happening. Same as Jwala in the advertisement she also put her consultation services before “Energy Healing with Bhakti Bhaav”.

Dallia/Iphigenie too was working hard towards her goal of destruction. After she became the face of Kosmic Fusion in New Zealand, Pulsars and FiTs started leaving. Now there is only 1 left, Nandini. 

The way she has used and abused one of the fellow FiTs, Renu is typical of narcissists and clearly shows the malignancy Dallia/Iphigenie was carrying inside. 

Dallia/Iphigenie first played a friend to Renu, pretending to give a listening ear and support. This is how she won Renu’s trust. Renu was actively contributing with write-ups and organising Meetups, which came in handy to Dallia who tends to be lazy. Of course, while she was pretending to be her friend, she was gossiping about Renu to Irene/Joy behind her back. When Renu came back very ill from a trip to Europe mid 2015, she stayed with Dallia whom she thought was her friend to recover. Renu was actually very ill with encephalitis and required medical attention but Dallia/Iphigenie didn’t care. It was Sree Maa and Shri Ji who had to intervene and personally take Renu to the hospital. Dallia/Iphigenie later admitted that she didn’t care if Renu died. Zero empathy, zero conscience.

When Renu came too much to handle as she needed a lot of attention, Dallia/Iphigenie gave her the cold shoulder. This came to a pinnacle at the India trip and shocked Renu who didn’t understand why a friend would treat her that way. Narcissists see others as objects to use and abuse. Dallia/Iphigenie in fact wanted Renu out as she had seen her strength during the India Pilgrimage, where she encountered a lot of physical challenges.

Early 2017 Renu all of a sudden left the FiT Programme. Other FiTs were baffled and had no idea what happened and of course Dallia/Iphigenie kept her mouth shut. Well, she did write a shaming and blaming email to Renu as a reply to Renu’s genuine apology. The letter is actually a complete projection from Dallia/Iphigenie’s side. She made sure she copied all the rest of us in (but not Sree Maa and Shri Ji…) to desensitize us.

How Narcissists hunt in packs part 1 - part 2 Narc tactics - part 3 Faking it - part 4 Use and Abuse - part 5 When the mask cracks

Sick with envy part 3 & why narcissist are drawn to empaths

Sree Maa Shri Ji are the epitome of Compassion and Grace and believe in the potential of the Absolute in everyone. Sree Maa lovingly and graciously welcomed anyone to the FiT Programme who wrote a letter to Sree Maa Shri Ji expressing how they were ready and willing to volunteer and serve the mission of Kosmic Fusion - to share the Quantum Vortex Scalar Wave Photon Pulse (QVSWPP) with as many souls as possible. Sree Maa supported all of the FiTs tirelessly no matter their issues to move into embodying our Brahmroop. Dallia/Iphigenie Amoutzias too wrote a letter, but in truth she was on a whole other mission.  

Dallia/Iphigenie kept asking for a group in New Zealand after seeing the buzz in Australia where a group of volunteers was very active. Sree Maa Shri Ji therefore did a few events in New Zealand and personally did a few intro evenings and the 5D++ AwaKeNiN TrANsForMaTioN workshop in October 2013 and Jan 2014 but after seeing Iphigenie's pathological behaviour didn't personally appear anywhere in NZ events. Therefore in a way Sree Maa Shri Ji are supremely gracious to let her realize that her envious and jealous nature's need to destroy will only get onto her demerits accounts. 

From the time Iphigenie was presenting herself as the face of Kosmic Fusion in NZ, the number of participants attending the meetings reduced drastically: from about 25 before she took on the leading role to approx. only  3-4 participants were regularly showing up. She was cunningly driven away all the 5D++ Pulsars and Auckland Meet Up participants by spreading rumours that Kosmic Fusion was a “cult” and by isolating all participants from Sree Maa Shri Ji. Iphigenie even tried to turn the Meetups into a pick-up place, as she would regularly show up with inappropriate clothing and try to flirt with all the male participants. She was also misrepresenting the key philosophies of Kosmic Fusion - she would call Quantum Vortex Scalar Wave Photon Pulse the “Source Energy”, which was a term made up and used by her. All the people who had joined through Sree Maa's efforts and the group she was given, she made sure to destroy it. Her now claiming and acting like she is a victim actually proves she is beyond psychopath. 

Spreading her poison as much as possible

She was creating havoc within the New Zealand team, in a way only a malignant narcissist knows how to with triangulations, gaslighting and psychic warfare. Dallia/Iphigenie Amoutzias was twisting Sree Maa Shri Ji’s words constantly when talking to participants and 5D++ Pulsars. For example, Iphigenie had told Sarala that “QVSWPP would protect you 24/7” when Sree Maa Shri Ji had clearly said “QVSWPP would be with you 24/7”. Iphigenie statements created some miscommunications with Sarala, however Sarala still joined the FiT training in May 2015. Iphigenie was clearly not happy about this, as she went around telling other NZ 5D++ Pulsars and FiT that Sarala had a “dark and dense” energy in her house, and letting everyone know that Sarala had a birthday party but “no one turned up for it”, Iphigenie had made sure of that. Sarala’s relationships and communications with the other NZ FiT were slowly getting severed through Iphigenie's meddling and eventually she left.

Early 2016, the Ashram Project was set up by two NZ FiT, Nandini and Jeeya. It was a trial to see what it would take to run an Ashram based on the Vision Sree Maa had shared about a physical place where people could come and have spontaneous realization of themselves and their Atma. Sree Maa had graciously agreed to support the initiative and to move into the Ashram. As soon as Iphigenie heard about it, she immediately began showing signs of jealousy and looked upset as was unable to accept that the Ashram Project had been established without her involvement.

In November 2016, Iphigenie moved into the Ashram after inviting herself to join, she literally planted herself in the Ashram using Jeeya even though she had received most loving guidance from Sree Maa that she was not yet ready. Only after she sorts out her jealousy issues and is debt free would she be ready. Still she forced her way into the Ashram. Please read the Gracious message from Sree Maa sent to Dallia/Iphigenie/Meera, which she told nobody about and completely ignored...

Immediately after Iphigenie moved into the Ashram, she started to create fights between Nandini and Jeeya, creating distress in the Ashram Project. Iphigenie was also trying to break Jeeya’s self-confidence and self-esteem by putting Jeeya down, lecturing Jeeya for not being organised, correcting Jeeya’s every Seva and making Jeeya feel confused all the time. Gaslighting this is called. Iphigenie was playing with Jeeya’s guilt and kept asking Jeeya, “why are you still around? Why don’t you go back to Singapore” and even saying things like “if I am Sree Maa Shri Ji, I would not have you around” just to implicate Sree Maa Shri Ji. Iphigenie would purposely ruin Sree Maa’s clothing in the laundry and not wash and rinse the brass plates after using the toxic brass polish. Items including jewellery disappeared while Iphigenie was in the Ashram, just to name a few things. 

Iphigenie has received countless chances to change and much much guidance and support. Sree Maa had even graced her with the precious name Meera, the name of a humble and renowned devotee of Lord Krishna, to help her move past her old self but Iphigenie never let go of her vicious intentions and never worked to overcome her deep-rooted issues. Instead she worked hard to cause problems in the FiT group and sowed seeds of doubts everywhere. Narcissists are masters at this and they do so in a very insidious fashion. It is only in hindsight that for me the picture is clear after everything came out. Iphigenie was a true snake in the grass, slowly and surely spreading her poison into everyone, causing disruption, fights amongst the NZ FiTs and harassment to Sree Maa.

Why was Iphigenie so obsessed with Sree Maa? Narcissists are drawn to empathetic people. Narcissists know those people have a conscience and will go over and above themselves and if need come sacrifice their own peace to uplift them. The reason why Sree Maa was selected by Iphigenie, Irene/Tzu-Ling Kuo/Joy Awakening (as she calls herself now) and various other narcissists is because they all knew that Sree Maa will help until the end and they can get away with their tantrums or drama or whatever games they are playing. Sree Maa was surrounded by narcissists in the Ashram House but being the most empathetic and kind Sree Maa would allow the abuse to happen and constantly guide them to help them move beyond their issues. This is true selflessness. And absolute greatness.

You can hear in this audio clip how beautifully Sree Maa Shri Ji is giving a discourse to Iphigenie about envy and that it is important to overcome this dynamic energy within. Sree Maa gently mentions the example of someone manipulating fellow students to make sure they don't go to the campus party, to help Iphigenie reflect on what she had done to Sarala (see above). 

However, Dallia/Iphigenie Amoutzias did absolutely nothing to change, quite the opposite and eventually the rest of the FiTs voted her out (see also this public statement). She had not come for her Soul, her sole intention was to destroy as her jealousy and envy completely consumed her. You can hear her own admittance to this in this blog by one of my Kalyan Mitras.

Read Sick with Envy part 1 and Sick with envy part 2

PS
This blog is only intended to openly share about my spiritual journey with Kosmic Fusion and the FiT Programme in particular, where some who joined turned out to be frauds and meddlers. This is not in judgement but in discernment, as i have learned that in my failure to remain aware and discern i have enabled those with vicious agendas and toxic behaviours and this doesn't serve any soul. And unfortunately, narcissists will be drawn to spiritual circles in particular as usually they can find a huge unsuspecting narcissistic supply of compassionate and empathetic people there.